POST MEETING UPDATE: NFC personnel would like to thank all of the clients for the concern and support they have provided through this difficult period.

We are in the process of determining staffing resources and allocating those resources to alternate wok sites. Please be aware that many of the dates referenced in the following notes (and any previous notes) are subject to change as a result of the impact of Hurricane Katrina and her aftermath. Specific dates and/or operations changes will be announced, as soon as they are determined, to allow our client agencies to adjust their schedules accordingly. Please bear with us as we work through this process.

I. Welcome - Cliff Lee reminded attendees of the procedures for evacuation in the event of an emergency evacuation and/or "Shelter-in-Place" crisis situation. Cliff also requested that representatives sign the sign-in sheet.

II. Update on the 2005 Pay Changes - Cliff informed the clients that the pay administration initiatives that resulted from the 2004 FWFA as outlined in the May 1st Federal Register have been split into five separate projects. NONE of the projects are in place at this time, however, NFC has assigned each it's own project number and has started some analysis on them. The projects and their NFC assigned project numbers are:

A. 3R's (Recruitment, Relocation, & Retention) = Project # 50463

B. Retained Pay (Project # 50569) - This project will cover discontinuance of the PRD M; discontinuance of locality pay for employees on pay retention; modification of programs for computation of scheduled and adjusted salary for employees on pay retention.

C. LEO's Pay Plan GL (Project # 50570) - This project will cover the elimination of PRD 6 to identify employees on the LEO 0491 pay table and implementation of the GL pay plan for Leo's at the GS-03 thru GS-10 grade levels.

D. Special Rate Supplement (Project # 50571) - This involves modifying the programs involving the scheduled and adjusted salaries so that scheduled salary will no longer reflect the special salary rate but will show the General Schedule rate or LEO 0491 base rate pay; the current locality rate field will be renamed and will include a "special rate supplement" in addition to the current "locality adjustment".

E. Temporary Promotion to Permanent Promotion (Project # 50572) - OPM has provided specific guidance that prohibits the processing of a CLG when an employee on a temporary promotion is subsequently permanently promoted without a break in service at the higher grade. NFC's current programming cannot accommodate this. PMSO changes will have to be made.

III. Other Pay Administration Items of Interest - Cliff Lee

A. Section 1008 of Public Law 109-13 dated May 11, 2005 authorizes the head of an Executive Agency to waive the annual limitation on total basic pay and premium pay under 5 U.S.C. 5547, and apply an alternate limit up to $200,000. This provision applies to an employee who performs work relating to a military operation in response to a declared emergency in an overseas location that is in the area of responsibility of the Commander of the U.S. Central Command. No additional guidance has been issued by OPM to date.

B. Update on January 2006 Pay Increase - There is nothing new on this front: per usual the Administration and Congress do not agree. Hopefully this will be resolved by the end of December so the January increase can be processed timely.

IV. Benefits Update - Jody Nyers

A. TSP Changes - NFC issued a bulletin on June 29th discussing the elimination of the open seasons. The definitions for Eligibility Codes 1 and 2 were somewhat confusing and, in a few cases, agencies processed actions with the incorrect code. NFC is aware of this and is planning to sweep the system to make the corrections. HR offices will not have to do this. However, first NFC is going to produce a "preview" report of the employees they believe are coded incorrectly. This will be done by Monday, August 29th. Agencies will have a chance to review the report and we will need positive feedback if any employee listed on the "preview" report is to be excluded from the sweep. After the processing for PP-16 is complete, NFC will sweep the system to correct the errors. However, they will not do this until after the PP-17 implementation of Coast Guard and TSA. As soon as Jody receives the report from NFC South, she will be sending it to the CAPPS reps for review. At this time, it appears we have approximately 1,000 employees that could be affected. Also, because the earlier bulletin caused confusion, a revised bulletin has been prepared and is being circulated for review as we speak. The new bulletin should be on the web page by early next week. Jody apologized on behalf of NFC for any confusion and errors this has caused.

B. Long Term Care Insurance (LTCI) E&L Statement Insert - Jody reminded clients that last month she had mentioned that OPM wanted to include an insert discussing LTCI in an Earnings & Leave statement. Terry Schleicher from OPM was coordinating this directly with the clients. A few agencies opted out; for everyone else the insert will be included in the E&LS in PP-16.

C. FEGLI Open Season Actions - The open season for FEGLI was last year (i.e., 2004). However, the actions were not to be effective until the first pay period in September. This is September 5, 2005, which is PP-18. Please remind your HR offices that this date is coming up. If any of these actions were being "held", they need to be entered into the system now. Also if there were HCUP packages that might have "rolled off" the FEGLI document, the agency needs to re-enter it in order for the FEGLI change to be included in the processing for PP-18. Jody also reminded the clients that employees MUST be in a pay and duty status in order for these actions to apply. Agencies may choose to enter a remark on the E&LS for PP-17 to remind employees that this will be happening if they elected an open season FEGLI change.

D. FEHB Open Season & Flexible Spending Accounts (FSA's) - Jody announced that the dates for this year's open season for both FEHB and FSA's will be November 14 - December 12, 2006.

V. Student Loan Repayment Program - Cliff indicated that OPM held a forum on August 3rd to discuss the Student Loan Repayment Program. He indicated that PPSPS was not able to attend and was not sure if anyone from our client agencies had done so. However, he wanted to share that OPM is establishing a several work groups to address a number of SLRP issues. He recommended that those agencies that utilize this program contact OPM so that they can participate in these work groups.

A. Jody provided an update to an issue with the NOA 817 (Student Loan Repayment) that DOJ raised at the July CAPPS meeting. The issue raised by DOJ was that the SF-50b's for these actions are not reflecting the loan repayment amount in the salary block or in a remark. PPSPS has requested that the programmers review this. As soon as PPSPS obtains additional information on this, the information will be shared with CAPPS.

1. DOJ - What do we do in the interim? We are using the awards fields to do these right now. This caused problems with about 85 employees. DOJ has talked with Mose and he has indicated that the programming has been fixed regarding the payment issue. However, we do not want to enter these now and find out later that they must be corrected so that a correct SF-50 can be printed. A: Jody recommended that agencies not process any 817's until PPSPS can obtain additional information from the programmers on the situation. Because the payment is not generated by the 817 NOA, this will not cause a delay in payment to the employee, just documentation for OPM.

2. Treasury - This is the first I have heard of this problem with the payments to the employee. How do we know if he have any? A: DOJ indicated that the overpayment occurred in PP-10 and PP-11. Mose Lindsay indicated that the majority of the employee's affected were in DOJ. There was one employee in Agriculture and one in another client agency. Both agencies were contacted. FC: USDA - I did not receive notification of this. FR: Mose indicated that the agency itself was contacted. FC: USDA requested that they either be the contact for these issues or at least be advised that there was an issue with one of the USDA components.

3. DOJ - Does the law require that the dollar amount be documented on the SF-50b? A: Jo indicated that the law itself would not specify a requirement to print the information, but that it may be in the OPM guidance. However, PPSPS did not have a copy of the guidance in-hand and did not know if it specified that this information be included on the SF-50B.

Post Meeting Update: Jo re-read the OPM guidance on the SF-50b issue. OPM stated in a memo update to the Guide to Processing Personnel Actions (a copy can be found at http://listserv.opm.gov/wa.exe?A1=ind0312&L=hrfedrec-l) that they did not want an SF-50b generated for these documents. If agencies CHOOSE to print the SF-50b for their own internal records they may do so, but that the SF-50b may be filed on the left-hand side of the employee's OPF, but it should NOT be filed on the right-hand side. A review of the original requirements revealed that a remark was NOT requested. PPSPS is still pursuing if it would be possible to print a remark. If so, the issue will be raised at the September CAPPS meeting to see if all clients are interested in a remark or if DOJ (and any agencies wishing to participate with) needs to submit an individual request to NFC to include a remark.

4. DOJ - Are we using the awards screen for the 817 temporarily? Currently this screen is tied to the award's budget sub-object class (BSOC). When we process the actual payments in SPPS they are recorded against the 815 BSOC. C: Treasury - why is the 817 tied to a BSOC; this action should not generate a payment right? A: Jo - Correct, but that does not mean that there are not reports generated based upon the processing of an 815 NOA that should be used to reconcile the SPPS processing of the actual Student Loan Payments. Jo explained that the BSOC associated with the 817 NOA is tied to the NOA and not the EPIC screen through which the data is entered. If DOJ wishes to change the BSOC that is associated with the 817 NOA's it they can certainly submit a request to GESDRequest to do so. It will not result in a change to EPIC. FC: DOJ - But why should we have to submit a change? We have a BSOC for our student loan payments in SPPS. Does OPM consider the student loan payment an award? FR: Jo - OPM considers the 817 an award/incentive, which is why the default programming is set to go to awards. As to the EPIC screen used, the recruitment bonus field will be utilized until we have a database change - currently, none has been scheduled. Once NFC has a database change and gives the student loan payment its own data element, the screen will likely look similar to the one for the 819. Again, the BSOC is not tied to the screen, but the NOA. Cliff added that NFC would most likely not make any changes to the 817 programming until after the OPM work groups decide how to handle the Student Loan program. At some point, we will program for all of the changes coming out of these meetings.

VI. Upcoming PINE and PAYE Processing Schedules - Gary Gaspard asked that everybody review the hand out provided on this issue.

A. PP-16 and PP-17 - Gary indicated that NFC needs to begin the migrations of two new clients at the end of PP-16. NFC will need to accelerate the 2nd pass of PAYE for PP-16 to allow an extra day for this process. Therefore, PAYE for PP-16 will be run on Friday night (August 26th) in lieu of Saturday night (August 27th).

On Saturday (August 27th), NFC will run PINE passes 1 and 2 for PP-17. On Sunday (August 28th), NFC will run PINE passes 03 through 07. These additional PINE passes are needed to allow for additional documents from the new clients to process. The passes will be run for all CV's so that every CV will be on the same pass. For those agencies utilizing FESI push-back files, this may result in empty files being pushed back to the agencies unless the agency has staff in over the weekend processing documents. Gary requested that Treasury and any other agency utilizing this process to alert their agency FESI program operators of the extra processing passes and that the push-back files may be empty.

The weekend of September 3-4th would normally be the maintenance weekend for PP-16. However, NFC will be running a special PINE pass on Saturday, September 3rd. There will be NO PINE pass on Sunday, September 4th, just normal NFC system maintenance. There will be NO PINE passes on the Labor Day holiday, Monday, September 5th. The first pass of PAYE for CV's 5, 6, and 7 will run on Thursday, September 8th, as scheduled. The first pass of PAYE for CV-08 will be delayed until Friday, September 9th, to allow the new clients additional processing time. On Saturday, September 10th, the second pass of PAYE will be run as regularly scheduled for everyone.

Gary indicated that this information will be distributed to the agency contacts and CAPPS representatives. He indicated that periodic updates to the information will also be posted on the NFC logon screen. He added that the NFC log-on would not included all of the information at once, because NFC has found that if the message is too lengthy, it is not read by the users.

1. TR - What about the after-BEAR reports, do they execute before you start the 1st pass of PINE? A: Gary - Yes, that is the normal part of the end-of-pay-period processing for any pay period. That cycle will be completed before NFC initiates processing for PP-17.

2. FDIC - For those of us with front-end systems that receive in-bound files, you are stating that we will have blank files on Saturday and/or Sunday? A: Gary - Correct.

3. DOJ - We send reports out after BEAR for accounting purposes and we do downloads after BEAR. Should this be moved to Saturday? A: Gary - Those processes should not change. They are part of the normal end-of-pay-period processing. DOJ - Normally this function is done at home on Sunday by one of our programmers. They can do this on Saturday? R: Gary - Do the schedule the report to run after BEAR or do they manually start it after BEAR processes? DOJ - Manually. A: Gary - YES, it will impact their process, the individual(s) needs to contact OCC to make sure BEAR is completed and then submit their report(s). These reports will need to be initiated before NFC begins the first pass of PINE on Saturday. We can discuss this further off-line.

B. In PP-18 - NFC will revert to the normal bi-weekly schedule for everything BUT PAYE. At the request of Treasury (for end of year processing), the second pass of PAYE will be accelerated to Friday, September 23rd.

C. PP-19 and Beyond - Gary reminded clients that earlier this year, NFC had proposed and the clients had approved a recommendation to permanently move the second pass of PAYE to Friday nights. Since NFC has accelerated the 2nd pass of PAYE for PP-18, it does not make sense to change it back to Saturday for the processing of PAYE for PP-19 and then do the permanent switch to Friday in PP-20. Therefore, NFC would like to know if any agencies object to making the switch permanent in PP-18. Jody asked if there were any objections. No representatives participating in the meeting objected. Gary indicated that he would raise this issue in the E-mail to be distributed about the PINE and PAYE processing schedule changes. This will allow agencies one last chance to respond at the next CAPPS meeting.

VII. 2005 W-2 Testing and Processing - Gary Gaspard indicated that, as in past years, NFC is looking for agency participation in the testing and processing of the W-2s. In the next week or so, NFC plans to send an E-mail call for participation. Agencies will be given a couple of weeks to provide SSNs to be included in the test process. For those unfamiliar with the process, agencies normally try to include a good cross-section of individuals within their organizations, particularly those individuals in unique situations. This "good cross-section" needs to be balanced with a manageable number. Please keep in mind that the agency must review the W-2 of each SSN submitted! By the end of October NFC will send the draft W-2's and the agency will have two weeks to review them and to provide comments back to NFC. Gary again stressed that agencies need to keep the limited time frame in mind when gathering SSN's, it would be almost impossible for an agency to review 1,000 or more W-2's in two weeks!

A. Treasury - When is the testing to take place? A: Gary - The end of October is the target time frame for distribution the W-2's to the agency for review.

VIII. ID Markings on W-2 Envelopes - Rhea Joiner reminded clients that in the past the envelopes used to mail the W-2's to the employees have "W-2" printed on the outside. NFC has over 300,000 of these envelopes in the warehouse. In preparation for the next mail-out, NFC must submit the order for additional envelopes. However, a suggestion has been made that perhaps, in the interest of security and confidentiality, that NFC use a different envelope for mailing the W-2 to the employee. There are four options on the table 1) no change, 2) use a plain white envelope (without the W-2 info on the outside), 3) use plain brown envelopes, or 4) using a plain colored envelope (the later option would result in an 8-10% increase in mailing costs).

A. Q: Is there a requirement to have the W-2 printed on the envelope? A: No.

B. Q: Why is a change being considered? A: NFC has received several security related inquiries on behalf of employees over the past several months, NFC management raised the issue that perhaps the W-2 notice on the outside of the envelope might flag someone to suspect that it would include sensitive information and thus make it more suspect to theft. If the envelope were white or brown it might simply be tossed aside. Using a colored envelope might trigger the employee to open it in lieu of trashing it.

C. Q: Can the W-2 mail-out be handled like the E&L statement, thus giving an employee's the option to choose whether s/he receives a hard-copy W-2 in the mail? A: No. There is a legal requirement that the payroll office must MAIL a W-2 to the employee.

There was general discussion on the pros/cons of changing the envelope. Some of those comments follow: i.e., the W-2 may flag the employee to pull that envelope; the plain white envelope would be the best option if a change is needed since that change would not increase the cost of W-2 mail-out process. No final decision was made.

IX. Employee Express Update / Employee Self Service - George Morris indicated that Employee Express staff and agency representatives are in the middle of testing for fall EEX changes and thus no meetings. No meetings means there are no updates. In addition, George indicated that had no updates on NFC's ESS system. He inquired if Randy Speed had any updates and he said "no".

X. Reporting Center - George indicated there are a few requests pending with the Reporting Center. Some are being reviewed for implementation and others are being reviewed for feasibility/practicality on the RC.

A. A request has been submitted to provide alpha runs for the title tables (i.e., TMGT 074 and 076). These runs could be reviewed by classifiers to assist in ensuring that consistent titling practices are utilized within an organization.

B. There is currently a requirement to provide an OWCP report of summary data to DOL. At present, this report is generated to a USDA printer. The USDA OWCP coordinator has to print off a hard copy of the report and distribute the report to the DOL and client agencies.

C. OPM requires that agencies submit reports on annual benefits and personnel costs. These are the 1351A, 1351B, and a 1351C reports. These are being reviewed to see if the RC would be a viable mechanism for generation.

1. USDA - Indicated that 1351 reports are very cumbersome at the moment, because many require agency manipulation to capture data not found in NFC. George elaborated on this and cited the situation of USDA employees who are overseas and paid by US Department of State as an example.

XI. DOL's Proposals - DOL CAPPS representative

A. Vote on the EPP Link to DOL's OWCP Page for Employee's - DOL's CAPPS rep provided a recap of the OWCP proposal presented to CAPPS in the July CAPPS meeting. Randy Speed added that NFC is meeting tomorrow, August 18th, on this request to review it from a technical perspective. One of the processes that NFC needs to do internally is to run the proposal through NFC's Cyber Security office to make sure that there are no issues from that angle. Once NFC has Cyber Security's approval, provided no issues are identified in tomorrow's meeting, NFC would be prepared to accept the request and put it on the list of items pending for a reimbursable and subsequent release schedule. This is assuming the item passes today's CAPPS vote.

1. USDA - What is the roll out date for the OWCP coordinator system? The agency OWCP reps want to make sure that the agency contact will have the same quality of access by the time the employees can do it. In addition, is there any help available to the employees or to the coordinators so they may train the employees? A: DOL - All the information will be available to either party. The effective date of the EPP is dependent on NFC. There is a system training manual available. FC: USDA requested a copy of the training manual. In addition, there was follow-up discussion between USDA and DOL regarding the quality and timeliness of the data available to agency OWCP coordinators. George indicated such discussions were technically outside the purview of CAPPS and should be raised at OWCP meetings that DOL had with the OWCP agency representatives.

2. SI - If the link is not on the EPP, the employee can manually go to the website so what is the big deal? TR - If it is only a link to another website, why don't we just put it out on the NFC home page?

3. HUD - Has DOL raised this link at their COMP meetings? A: DOL - Yes, it has been raised there several times. It has also been raised at the annual meeting held at labor.

Vote on OWCP link on the EPP. This was conducted by starting in one of the corner of the room and requesting that each representative state his/her: name, agency, and yeah/nay vote.

a. Yes - Accept the DOL proposal: AG, ARC, CCR, DHS, DOC, DOJ, DOL, FDIC, GAO, GPO, HUD, IBWC, MSPB, NEH, OGE, PSA, SBA, SI, TR, TR-BPD for cross-serviced clients, USCP .

b. No - Do NOT accept the DOL proposal - NONE

c. Abstain - NONE

B. Discussion on the Proposed Modifications to the E&L Statement - Before the client discussion started, George asked the DOL representative if DOL had made any preliminary contact with NFC on this issue. He wanted to make sure that DOL understood that the current E&L software code was maxed. In order to implement any change to the hard-copy E&L, NFC would have to purchase new software to do implement this initiative and that the entire E&L would have to be programmed in that software. The DOL representative indicated that, yes, DOL was agreeing to this. George then cleared the table for discussion. He informed the clients that the DOL confirmation was needed to ensure that a lengthy discussion and voting process was not under taken by the clients only to find out that DOL could not go forward with changes because the scope was much larger they had anticipated.

Due to the lengthy discussion on the OWCP link, this item was moved to the end of the agenda to ensure that the primary CAPPS items were addressed. At the conclusion of the remainder of the agenda there were only about eight minutes remaining in the CAPPS time slot. DOL recommended that this discussion be tabled until the September meeting with a vote on the issue at the October meeting. To facilitate next months discussions on this issue, Jody and Jo will forward to DOL comments and questions that they had received from clients on this issue. In addition, clients were asked if they had comments or questions to send them to the DOL CAPPS rep (contact information was provided to CAPPS reps) by September 1st. The DOL rep will compile them and provide responses to PPSPS so that they can be shared with CAPPS prior to the September meeting.

XII. User & Work Group Updates

A. Awards - Jo Bonner indicated that the August AUG meeting was very brief, only DOJ attended. The 840/841 NET request initiated by DHS/SS is still pending a reimbursable. No timeframe has been set for that project. The next quarterly meeting is November 9, 2005.

1. DOJ raised additional issues at this time regarding the student loan repayments. For consistency in subject matter in the notes, that discussion was moved to V - Student Loan Repayment Program.

B. Benefits - Jody Nyers reminded everyone that the next BUG meeting is scheduled for August 25, 2005.

C. EPIC - Gary Gaspard announced that the next meeting is scheduled for September 15, 2005. Jody inquired if it would be a teleconference or meeting in the DC-CSO. Gary did not know at this point. Gary added that the issue of implementation of the ".Net" versions will be addressed at the next meeting.

D. EPP - (Randy Speed) - None.

E. FESI (Donna Speed) - None.

F. PMSO - (George Morris) - None.

G. T&A - Jo Bonner reminded everyone that the T&A groups meet the 1st payday Thursday of each month, with the next meeting scheduled for September 1st.

1. Jo announced that STAR 5.0 Testing is scheduled for November 2005. She will have a kick-off meeting with clients who wish to participate in this testing session. The meeting is tentatively scheduled for September 15th. Agencies who want to participate in the testing, but do not currently participate in either of the T&A groups must notify Jo of their intent to participate in the testing. She asked that agencies send her an e-mail no later than September 1st with the name, e-mail, and the phone number of the individual who will be the agency coordinator.

2. Creditable Service for Annual Leave Accrual - Jo reminded the clients that the Federal Workforce Flexibility Act of 2004 included a clause to permit credit towards the annual leave SCD for non-Federal service. Interim regulations were published on April 29th and OPM's CPM-2005-07 with Q&A's was released the same day. Jo has received several calls on this recently. If the agency has established policies and procedures for documenting and determining creditable service under these provisions, the agency can begin entering this information in the NFC system utilizing the OPM authorized remarks on the appointment action and/or Change in SCD action. She reminded clients that this credit applies only to the Leave SCD and not to any of the other SCD fields! She also advised them that there is currently no indicator field to alert the agency that the employee's leave SCD field has been adjusted for non-Federal service and that s/he is in a 1 year grace period for that service. Agencies must maintain this information and monitor it accordingly! Jo indicated that she will request that such a field be established with the next data base change. However, to date, there is no database change on the schedule.

3. DOJ - We have been trying to get an answer on the AL accrual change for some time now. It appears that STAR is picking up the change a pay period late. Is this true? A: Jo - That is correct. Because of the update cycle for this on the mainframe and when STAR is updated each pay period the up-to-date leave accrual is not updated automatically in STAR until a pay period late. This is why we are still mailing the Notification of Leave Category Change Reports. Jo indicated that she has raised this issue several times in the T&AUG. Agencies need to make sure that timekeepers are not waiting until STAR is update. If they wait, the employee will end up in a leave error status because the mainframe changed the previous pay period.

XIII. Potpourri

A. Jody mentioned to the clients that NFC Bulletin 05-13: "Elimination of the SSN on the IRIS 600 menu screens" has been issued and is on the webpage.

B. SBA - We processed a corrected T&A to enter information for a COLA. We realize now that you cannot do this on a corrected T&A, but NFC doubled the amount. They gave him 50% in lieu of 25%. A: Jo indicated that since it cannot be done on a corrected T&A, NFC should not have paid anything on the T&A. She inquired if SBA confirmed that the payment, was tied to the COLA? She asked that SBA provide an SSN and pay periods so that she can review them. C: DOJ - We had this happen during that first retro. Give me a call and I'll chat with you on this. You can confirm the information with NFC after we talk.

C. DOJ - About the Fiscal Year-End Bulletin, we talked to Chris Adoue regarding the accounting for the pay period, specifically when they are going to roll-over the accounting. Normally they do this at the top of PP-19. This means that if you key in awards payments, the agency must enter the accounting code if it is to be paid under the previous fiscal year cycle. Our HR office is going to have tons of awards to enter and type the accounting on those actions. Chris said that they could delay it until PP-20, but now they are saying that they will do the roll over in PP-20. This will cause a problem with T&A's. Why does NFC do the split week 1 and week 2 if the actual FY split should occur on Saturday? This causes a problem for those agencies that have people working on Saturday's and DOJ has people in FP that work seven days a week. A: Jo- The FY-end bulletin is designed to address T&A issues and is sent to those individuals who may be involved in the T&A process. It is not intended to address award concerns. The cycle does require extra keying for accounting data in PP-19 and subsequent pay periods if the awards are to be charged to prior year funds. There is no way we can program the system to know to which FY the agency wishes to charge the award. The system defaults to current and the agency must enter it if it is prior. This is not a new process. As for the split T&A for accounting, this is also not a new process. Treasury interjected that a split is not required for accounting. Jo concurred that she misspoke, she meant to say the accounting split on the T&A. NFC establishes and accounting split on the T&A in accordance with what works best for all clients. However, we also recognize that this does not work perfectly for everyone, which is why we allow agencies the options to enter accounting on each TC if they so choose. FQ: Are you telling me that we have to do line-by-line accounting that pay period for all of these FP employees who work on that Saturday? FA: Yes, if you do no not want that days charges to be applied to the previous FY. This also is not a new process. DOJ is not the only NFC client to have employees that work on Saturdays. USDA has several components that do this, most notably the Forest Service. A couple of other agencies chimed in that they do this all the time.

D. TR - Looking at the agenda, under Roman numeral II, the first four items in particular will require programming on the front-end, client side in addition to NFC changes. In making the case for Treasury that we have to make program changes. However, our changes need to be synchronized with the NFC. The PATS 6B report says that the project is scheduled to be implemented in PP-13, 2006. This seems to be totally unrealistic. A: Cliff agrees and has already talked to Donna Speed about this. She was not aware of the PP-13 date or where it came from. Management is currently in Kansas City. When they return, this will be looked into to see where those dates originated. Does TR have projected dates? R: No, we have to match you. We need six weeks lead-time to make a system change.

XIV. Attendees:

A. In Person:

1. Clients - AG, ARC, Capitol Police, CCR, DHS, DOC, DOJ, DOL, FDIC, GAO, GPO, HUD, MSPB, NEH, OGE, SBA, Smithsonian, Treasury,

2. NFC - Cliff Lee (chair), George Morris (co-chair), Jo Bonner, and Jody Nyers

B. Via Teleconference -

1. Clients - Treasury, Treasury/BPD

2. NFC - Lynn Downs, Gary Gaspard, Mose Lindsay, Mary McKenna, Randy Speed, Linda Wilson