I. Welcome -

Cliff Lee covered the logistics for evacuation in the event of an emergency evacuation and/or "Shelter-in-Place" crisis. Participants were asked to sign in on the 'sign-in' sheet. Cliff introduced Mark Hazuda and the rest of the NFC team that were visiting from New Orleans.

II. Pay & Leave Issues

A. PP-25 PAYE - Penny Forbes reminded clients of the acceleration of PAYE for PP-25. First pass will run on Wednesday, December 29th and the 2nd pass on Thursday, December 30th.

B. CV-08 - Penny discussed the move of DHS to CV-08 in PP-25. Will be the 4th central version and will go into place for the beginning of the tax year. This will also keep the CVs small.

1. USDA expressed joy over this move. This should improve the HCUP process.
   
   
2. Mose Lindsay indicated that CV-05 may have accelerated PAYE in PP-25 due to this migration.

   Post Meeting Update: Due to the after PAYE closeout procedures, it was necessary to accelerate pay for all CV's in PP-25. The migration went well.

3. Who do we talk to if we have to make adjustments to our front-end?
   
   
4. Q: TR since we still provide service to SS, will the whole history go across? A: Yes.

C. Special Salary Rate Issues (Cliff Lee)

1. There has been an increase in rates for Special Rate Table 0032 in DCB. Cliff sent an e-mail to the affected agencies (DOC, AG, DOJ, and TR). The agencies will have to process this manually. This table is now set-up like the IT special rate tables.
   
   
2. PPSPS has identified problems with the Special Rate Table 0029 in DCB. An e-mail was distributed last month outlining the issue. Cliff reminded agencies of the parentheticals that are needed if the employee is not in the OPM approved series for the SSR table. The "other" series cannot be added to the table 031 since they are not OPM approved series. The e-mail referenced above included a FOCUS report name that agencies can run to identify employees that they have that may be impacted by the table corrections.

   a. George also indicated that agencies who use 9999 in the construct without adding the parenthetical to get around this will have a problem. You should be using the official title codes, but you must use the parenthetical.

D. Senior Executive Service Pay and Leave Issues (Randy Gonzales)

1. Level II Pay Cap for Agencies with an approved SES Performance Rating System - Cliff requested that agencies notify NFC when their performance rating systems are approved so that NFC can change the salary caps approved. We know MSPB has been approved.

   Post Meeting Update: OPM is providing a list of agencies with certified SES Performance Appraisal Systems directly to NFC each pay period. Agencies no longer need to notify NFC of approval of their systems.

   a.  Q: FCC - Who do we notify? A: Send the notification to the GESD request box. FCC was not on the initial list and NFC does not know if OPM will continue to update it for the payroll providers.

   b.  C: TR - We have been tentatively approved by OPM. R: Please send notification to Cliff.

   c.  C: TR - We had heard that the higher base salary would be tied to a PRD. A: Cliff said no. The PRD is strictly for an SES employee who has been raised to the level 2 limit and then subsequently moves to a non-approved agency. The employee is entitled to retain his higher salary. FQ: Has this been programmed yet? R: Cliff didn't think so, because we just did get the approvals.

Post Meeting Update: The changes resulting from the new SES pay regulations will be implemented by NFC in Pay Period 01/2005.

2. Aggregate Limitation on Pay for Agencies w/Approved Perf Rat System - This entitlement which applies to SES, SL, and ST's is also keyed to the approved performance cycle.

Post Meeting Update: OPM issued clarification that indicates that unless an agency's plan allowed for the SL/ST and equivalents, they were not automatically "approved" when the agency's SES Performance Rating System was approved.

3. 8 Hour Annual Leave Accrual Rate Change - The 8 hour Annual Leave Accrual Rate for ES, SL, ST, and FE employees was implemented PP-22. The November 16th sweep accidentally included separated employees. These employees are on the report, but you do not need to adjust them. NFC is running another sweep today to undo the separated employee adjustments. These individuals have been left on the list in case the agencies wish to check them tomorrow. Jo will be e-mailing the reports after this meeting. Remember if there is a leave error this pay period, it may correct itself next pay period if the error was due to timing.

E.  2005 Federal Pay Raise (Cliff Lee) - HR5025 (S2806) Transportation/Treasury Appropriations Bill contains the 2005 federal pay raise criteria. However, congress is in a lame duck session, and the odds of getting this resolved by Friday are touch-n-go. The President must offer an alternative plan by November 30th or the 20+ percentage change gets put into place. We know this is highly unlikely so we could be looking at another 2.5% proposal from the President even though the Treasury Appropriations bill indicates 3.5%. Does this mean we will have a Retro 2005??? That depends on what congress does or if the president approves an increase comparable to the congressional proposal.

Post Meeting Update: The President did offer an alternative of 2.5%. However, on December 6th, Congress passed to HR 4818 and the President signed it on December 8th making it PL 108-447. We are now awaiting the pay agent's recommendation and the signing of the Executive Order both of which should occur prior to PP-01.

F. Federal Workforce Flexibility Act of 2004 Cliff discussed the Federal Workforce Flexibility Act of 2004 otherwise know as P. L. 108-411 which was signed on October 30, 2004. A copy of this was e-mailed to the CAPPS group. OPM issued initial guidance on the change in CPM 2004-22 which was dated November 1, 2004. In addition to the 8 hour annual leave category change that Randy discussed, there will also be changes in the following areas:

1. Comp Time for Official Travel - This is to be implemented no later than Jan 28, 2005. However, we have no additional information on this until OPM provides some guidance on how we need to handle it. (i.e., ceiling, limitations, etc.).
   
   
2. Annual Leave enhancements for select newly appointed employees - This is to be implemented no later than April 28, 2005. Again NFC is waiting on regulations from OPM. This is different from the SES entitlement to the 8 hour category and requires an additional SCD leave field. CPDF does not currently receive the SCD Retirement field. Additional info will be forthcoming after OPM issues guidance.
   
   
3. Changes to Recruitment, Relocation, & Retention Bonuses - This is to be effective no later than May 1, 2005. The old regulations will be superseded. The new one allows higher rates and agreements for up to 3 years. NFC is again awaiting OPM guidance.
   
   
4. Corrections Relating to Pay Administration - This is to be effective no later than May 1, 2005. This change implements some long needed changes in these pay areas:



a. Special Rate vs. Locality Rates - In many locales the special rate is superseded by the locality rate. In these cases the PRD 6 will no longer be used.

b. Pay Retention and Locality Pay - This applies to employees currently receiving full locality on top of the retained rate of pay. This change is specifically designed to eliminate the windfall for cases such as the move from IT (which has locality built into it) to non-IT rates.

c. Maximum Special Salary Rate to be increased to EX-IV - Deals with the special rate tables where the bands exceed the level V rate. This should resolve some of the issues for the GM employee on pay banding in DOC.

5. Q&A's

   a. Q: TR - We are going to have to have 894's for all of those individuals taken off the special rates? A: Cliff - Probably since we will no longer use the special rate as the scheduled rate for these individuals. Whether OPM will eliminate the 0029 salaries for those grades where the locality exceeds it is up in the air. They may not include these items on the 2005 tables. The actions would require a change in the PRD and base salary.

(1) Q: Is this something NFC is thinking of doing for us? A: We don't know until the regulations are released. We may be able to do the local ones, but the nation/world -wide tables may be a bigger issue and agencies may have to do those. We will let you know when we get the notices from OPM.

b. Q: For those employees in category b, are we reducing the base salaries to make the migration to non-IT work. A: Cliff - I don't think we can legally do this. The change will be effective from May 1st forward and thus probably will not have an impact on someone already receiving the windfall. After that the agency will probably have a choice to set the employee's pay to avoid the windfall. We cannot accurately predict the method to be used until we get the OPM guidance. The new regulations may require system changes to accommodate this since the system is currently set-up to provide full locality on top of the retained rate.

c. Q: TR - We cannot pay them for the travel comp time? A: Cliff - That is correct. FQ: Will we have a new category? FA: That is likely, but we do not know for sure. We know we will have to track it separately. The law precludes payment so FLSA exempt/non-exempt is irrelevant.

III. Benefits Updates (Jody Nyers) -

A. FEGLI Open Season actions - Special procedures are necessary if a HCUP case is needed for an employee who submitted a FEGLI open season change action and that document has been entered as "I" incomplete in preparation for a September 2005 release. In these situations, the FEGLI open season document must be deleted, the HCUP case entered and applied, and then the FEGLI open season document must be re-entered. Programmers are exploring the possibility of working around this for the 2005 retro if one is needed. Jody will know more about this feasibility after the programmers finish the SF-2809 programming.

B. FEHB Open Season runs thru December 8th. Employees should be using the new SF-2809, dated October 2004. This document is available on OPM's website at: http://www.opm.gov/asd/htm/2004/04-405.asp. You must use the new form and format.

Post Meeting Update: Re the new SF-2809. The changes to accommodate the new SF-2809 form have been implemented in EPIC. Please note that the "Event Codes that Permit Change" range from 1A to 1Q and 5A to 5M and that the "5" codes refer to those employees who are NOT participating in premium conversion. The system will edit on this if you elect NO in the Premium Conversion block on the EPIC screen.

C. TSP Open Season runs thru December 31st. With regard to an end to TSP waiting periods, the Senate has approved its bill and the House version is awaiting a floor vote with the main delay being the estimated $1.1 billion (over 10 year period) that it would cost the agencies to begin matching TSP funds immediately as opposed to waiting the one year. The next TSP Quarterly Meeting is scheduled for December 8th and we are hoping to have a resolution at that time.

1. Q: USDA - We are having problems when trying to waive the document in EPIC. A: Jody - This is the first she has heard of this, what are the details? FC: New documents cannot be added because they are receiving the message "Updates are backed-out". FA: Jody indicated that this was not explained in the e-mail she received that the agency was trying to waive FEHB. The document cannot be released if waiving. FQ: How about canceling? FA: Jody has not had a chance to review the case. FC: USDA then indicated they had sent the case to PPO on Monday and had not heard from them. FA: Louise Richard (NFC) indicated that she had not seen the case, but would check into it and get back to CAPPS. FC: FYI the request was sent to PPO from USDA/ARS not HQ.
   
   
2. Q: USDA- ESS had strange messages where the document disappeared. Jody added for Polly Smith (NFC) benefit that some documents that are entered via ESS are apparently uploaded, but then dropped. USDA is concerned because the documents were there in EPIC suspense, but then disappeared. USDA realizes that maybe there is no problem, but what has happened to the documents? USDA also indicated that agencies need notification of what is going on in these situations. A: Penny Forbes indicated that there were approximately 740 documents affected by a system problem - Polly Smith updated this number 1200. These documents were deleted from suspense and reprocessed last night. With regard to notification, since CAPPS was meeting today, Penny felt that this would be soon enough to pass along the notification. FC: USDA indicated that an email to CAPPS yesterday would have been nice.
   
   
3. Q: PTSA - If the documents applied last night but I still do not see my individual actions on the database, what should I do? DOJ indicated they may be in future. A: Polly Smith the guidance provided above covers anything entered as of 5:30 p.m. central time. FC: The document was entered via ESS, went to suspense, and then our benefits officer corrected it. FA: NFC deleted all of them and so all cases should have been cleaned-up. Send the case to your CSR and they will get it to Polly for research. As Polly indicated earlier, 1200 documents were modified by the time the sweeps took place last night.
   
   
4. Q: USDA - Follow up to my first question: When will we find out about the documents being waived? And when? Q: Jody indicated that they hope to have an answer later today. Penny asked that she be included on emails that go to PPO. Louise checked with Clara and it did come into PPO and Cliff Majoue is working with them on it. She is going to see if she can release them this morning.

   Post Meeting Note: The NFC analyst checked on the "waived FEHB coverage issues" and found out that the documents still cannot be released yet. The programmers are working on it.

5. Q: Is TSP Catch-up included in ESS? A: Yes, the document goes into a future file. The option only appears on the employee's ESS page if the employee is 50 or older. You do not have the option, if you do not meet the age requirements. FC: DOJ indicated if the agency still uses EEX, the employee can key the TSP catch-up there.

D. FSA Open Season - This open season coincides with the FEHB open season. Employees must make an election to start or continue contributions. Remember if an employee elects to participate in an Health Savings Account (HSA), they cannot participate in an FSA. This check is handled via the FSA website and it is the employee's responsibility to handle it. The HSA web-site will ask this question when signing up for HSA and will not allow the employee to sign-up if they indicate they are participating in an FSA. Clarification of any dollars to FSA and/or HSA that should not have occurred are to be corrected between the employee and the IRS.

1. Q: TR asked if an employee can continue to use the DCHSA (Dependant Care) option and have an HSA? A: Jody said yes. The two are independent of each other.

E. Personal Benefits Statements - If your agency wants to participate in the annual testing of the statement, please submit your list of SSN's to your Customer Service Representative by COB THIS Friday, November 19. (QA testing is tentatively scheduled for February 2005 for 3 weeks.)

F. Military LWOP/Furlough and FEHB coverage expanded from 18 months to 24 months with PL 108-375 section 1101. The programmers are looking into what steps will be needed to increase extend this timeframe. We will not be having a category for 18 months AND 24 months, just one category for 24 months.

1. Q: TR - Why can we not have two categories? A: Because the law does not allow it. The language was extending the coverage to 18 months was replaced with language extending it to 24 months.
   
   
2. Q: TR - The legislation is retro. What does that mean? A: We know that NFC cannot go back to 2001 automatically. However, we are still awaiting guidance from OPM on the specifics of the retro and will update the CAPPS community via email as soon as we receive it.

G. Treasury Direct Savings Bonds - Jody received a call from an employee in one of the client agencies who had done what they needed to do to get the electronic bonds from the Treasury web-site. The employee then has to give the account information to his/her HR office and sign-up for an allotment. These transactions are not handled via the savings bond action in EPIC. This is a payroll allotment and should be established like a checking/savings account. The HR office in question had attempted to use the Savings Bond form screens and when this didn't work told the employee that NFC didn't program for the Treasury Direct Saving Bonds. Polly Smith recommended that employees use ESS to set up an allotment and avoid the HR office.

1. Q: PSA - How did the employee know about the bonds and how they are processed? A: The TR Direct web-site provided this information.
   
   
2. Q: TR - Are we updating the EPIC manual? A: Penny indicated we are not currently updating the manual but maybe NFC issue a bulletin covering all the changes that are occurring.
   
   
3. C: Polly Smith pointed out that another advantage to the new system is that if the employee has a TRD account s/he can exchange his/her paper bonds next year.
   
   
4. C: Bulletins do not get issued to EMPLOYEES! If NFC issues something on the EPP, they will have a better chance of reaching the masses.
   

H. EarlyOut/BuyOut Requests - Patrick Foret asked if agencies have information on their offering on early out and/or buy out requests to submit that info to him ASAP in order to prepare estimates (volume, when, types, etc.). Send info through your Customer Service Representative and they will get the info to Patrick.

1. Treasury indicated they have a window that is effective December 3rd and will probably have another one next year.

IV. Employee Express Update (George Morris) -

EEX meeting yesterday and primarily discussed the NASA system which is an EPP/benefits combo. EEX is looking at utilizing NASA software that would present data similar to EPP. The NASA system's benefits information is updated more frequently - maybe even weekly/bi-weekly. They are trying to give EEX more offerings. They have a tentative okay from current EEX clientele to go forward. OPM is still looking at the Air Force EOD package. It is a data gathering package that does not interface with anything right now. EEX is exploring the front-end. Air Force personnel have been invited to the Macon, Georgia facility to go over the technical aspects. EEX and the leading reps are talking to OPM/EHRI regarding directly communicating EEX data to the EHRI e-initiative. Clients have expressed concerns that the data does not go through edits up-front. This means agencies may have problems with the data not matching. The payroll data really should be the major data source. EEX has identified some small items for spring release but this is in the tentative draft stages.

V. Classification -

George reminded everyone that positions classified in the 334's should be totally replaced with the 2210's. The special IT rate will no longer cover the 0334 series after December 31, 2004. Agency personnel should ensure that the changes are completed before the January increase or an impact on the employee's pay could occur.

VI. Reporting -

George indicated that he is continuing to receive inquiries regarding the new EEOC 715 requirements report which includes the proposed changes to PATCO and RNO codes. This issue is still awaiting decision by OPM and he cannot get OPM to spit anything out. NFC does not know what OPM's guidelines will be and even though EEOC has made it clear that they wish to see new data. NFC cannot comply (from EEOC's perspective) until we get the OPM guidelines and program for it. Many of the agencies' EEO personnel have contacted George and he told the CAPPS reps that the can forward these individuals to him if they are being "hounded". He suggested an even better alternative would be for the EEOC staffs to contact OPM in lieu of him.

A. Q: TR - Has NFC programmed the new instructional program codes. A: George - Yes, these are implemented in NFC already - just your problem. Broke out new categories and renumbered others but all has been sorted out and if you run into a problem, let George know. FQ: Is there a table where we could get the values? A: Yes go to TM025, block 141. Run a report but send George an email if you have other requests. FC: USDA indicated that the new data was submitted and corrections made. George indicated that he was not sure if all of the corrections were made. USDA indicated that the AG data was corrected. Never the less, if an agency encounters a problem, alert George.

VII. User & Work Group Updates

A. Awards - (Jo Bonner) Next meeting is December 8th from 9:30 to 11:30 in Lincoln 3. No hot topics at this point, submit them. Holiday cookie exchange.
Post Meeting Update - No agenda items were submitted by the participants and the meeting was cancelled.

B. EPIC - (Mark Liegey) - There will be no meeting tomorrow (November 18) because the programmers are concentrating on making sure that all issues are resolved for the SF-2809's. Mark also added that he is back to working on PKI most of the time which means that EPIC is no longer his main focus. After the holidays NFC is hoping to get a contractor in place who can get this workgroup moving along. Mark will facilitate items but since payroll/personnel is not his background, it makes more sense for a contractor with expertise in the area to handle these issues.

1. Q: When will WEB EPIC be implemented? A: Penny indicated sometime in 2005. It has been started but is now delayed because of the need to implement the SF-2809 changes into the latest version. Mark indicated there are a few changes that have been implemented in anticipation of the 2005 retro. NFC is now capturing the data for retirements that was causing grief for processing the retro's in the previous two years. Mark will send an email of the projects that have been completed that will help ease some issues in EPIC.

C. FESI (Glenda Dorsey) - no report

D. ICAMS - (Glenda Dorsey) - no report

E. PMSO - (George Morris) - The first meeting will be in January 2005. George has talked to several folks identified as work group participants and the consensus was to wait until January.

F. T&A - (Jo Bonner) Next TAUG meeting is scheduled for Thursday, December 9th from 9:30 to 11:30 in the Resource Room. The next TARWG is also scheduled for Thursday, December 9th from 1-3.

1. Military Leave - Employees for whom no T&A was submitted in PP-19 did not have adjustments to their Regular Military Leave accounts. HR offices will need to make these adjustments manually via TINQ. Next year NFC will modify the Fiscal Year End bulletin requesting that agencies process T&A's for 80 LWOP if necessary to avoid having to do the manual adjustment.
   
   
2. Butterbaugh v DOJ - Jo indicated that she had contacted OPM regarding employee notification requirements for the Butterbaugh v DOJ military leave decision. OPM indicated that agencies MUST notify employees of this judgment. As a courtesy to all clients the following statement has been placed on the EPP and will remain there for six months. The statement can be viewed on the initial screen before and after logging into the EPP. "Attention: If you used military leave between July 25, 1997, and December 21, 2000; you may be entitled to restoration of some annual leave for that period. To read more on this subject, please go to www.opm.gov/oca/compmemo/2004-19.asp."
   
   
3. Q: PTSA - Did you review the case I submitted? A: Jo indicated that she received the e-mail, but did not have an SSN to research. FC: Will not send you a file in email with SSN's. Will call this afternoon with info and leave it on voice mail if you are not available.

G. EPP - (Polly Smith) -

1. Q: PTSA - Can agencies contact an NFC employee when an agency employee requests a password by email and doesn't receive it and tries 15 days later and gets an error message? Is there a contact at NFC that an employee him/herself should be calling? A: The employee can go to the "CONTACT US" link and send an email with the information. If this does not work, then the employee needs to go to the HR office and the HR office should contact the agency's Customer Service Representative. Also the "contact us" link on the EPP should allow the employee to receive a password or a person to handle the issue. There is a team of four people each day to handle these issues and the response should be within 24 hours.

   Post Meeting Update - NFC Webmaster e-mails will be answered Monday through Friday by a PPSB team member. On those days, the team members will pick up tickets as soon as possible, usually within 24 hours. Resolution of the issue is dependent upon the complexity of the problem. HR offices may call their Customer Support Representative or 504-255-5230 with ESS questions, but individual employees must use the NFC webmaster e-mail to request assistance.

2. Q: FMCS - We have a few employees without valid mailing addresses. Is there some way to get them a password? A: NFC works with the security office to pass thru the password from EPP/ESS. Contact ISSO and EPP will get the PIN to ISSO. NFC staff try to be very careful because of the nature of the data and with some marital issues. NFC needs to tread very carefully with regards to whom this type of information is being shared.
   
   
3. Q: What is on the horizon for EPP/ESS? A: NFC - We recently completed the SF-50's, received some feedback on that issue and we thus have no definite timeframe. Then, e-Authentication initiatives and other technical updates. We have received many requests in and are prioritizing the items. FQ: What timeframe will the SF-50's reflect? FA: NFC is looking at this point forward. This depends on what data is available. Remarks have been an issue the staff is looking into this as well. NFC staff plan to hold a meeting later this week to discuss this. FQ: Can agencies choose not to have their 50 data out there? A: NFC plans to make it part of the EPP, like the personal benefits statement. However, if agencies do not want the employee to have access to these documents, we can turn it off. NFC just needs to program to make the option available. FC: All CAPPS reps in attendance agreed to allow the agency to choose it. FA: NFC - This is the type of info that NFC needs to know now. What about is this an official document - need to go to OPM for the ruling on this (i.e., Is an SF-50b printed via EPP a valid legal document?) Decision is on hold. FQ: When can we expect the requirements package? FA: NFC - Sometime in December. NFC would like clients to review the requirements and make a decision in January. FQ: How would corrected 50's and HCUP issues be handled? A: NFC - We are still looking into this as well.

VIII. FYI - Training

A. Payroll Operations w/ SPPS in LA - Dec 7-9

B. SSPS web in DC - Dec 7-10

C. EPIC/HCUP in DC - Dec 7-10

D. TINQ in NOLA - Dec 8-9

E. SPPS Web in DC - Feb 15-17 (2005)

F. STAR Web in DC - March 1-3 (2005)

G. TINQ in NOLA - March 17-18 (2005)

H. EPIC/HCUP in NOLA - March 29-April 1 (2005)

IX. Potpourri

A. Customer Briefing will be held on May 17-18, 2005 here in DC. There will be a day of presentations on the 17th and then demos on the 18th.

B. Requests for MASC Table Updates should be submitted to COD, not GESD.

C. PTSA - We have an issue on a new employee to PTSA who happens to be coming from another NFC serviced agency. We are trying to enter a document in SPPS, but it will not apply because SPPS is defaulting to the old agency. This information was sent to Sharon but I have not heard from her yet. A: Can you send it to Mose? FC: Yes.

D. DOL - When will the NOA for student loan repayments be implemented? What about the Detail NOAC on IPA assignments? NOAC 817 to be programmed when? DOL uses a large number of these. A: Jo indicated that since DOL is not scheduled for implementation until PP-07, 2005, that the NOA for Student Loan repayments should not be problem since it is scheduled before then - hopefully before the retro. Cliff indicated that he had sent down the information for the NOA 730 & 731, but has not seen an implementation date yet.

E. DOL - What is the status of history corrections for PeopleSoft clients? ICAMS was working on this? A: Penny indicated that they were still working on this and they are testing this out. FQ: When will this be operational? A: Unsure, NFC personnel do know yet although they realize that this is an issue for PeopleSoft clients.

F. George inquired if any of the ICAMS/PeopleSoft clients are having problems with the geographic location codes (GLC's). Apparently GLC's are tied to addressing in ICAMS and he has received a number of reports that although NFC's GLC's are in, operational, and valid the actions are somehow not passing thru ICAMS to us. A: GAO indicated they have a case and they had worked with the ICAMS staff in Beltsville, MD to get it to apply. (Lana Park, then via EPIC, and back into ICAMS.)

G. DOJ - Did NFC get an answer on standardization on local tax? A: We have heard nothing from OPM on this so at this point, we're doing it via discretionary allotment.

X. Attendees

A. Clients -

1. In person: AG, ARC, DOC, DOJ, DOL, FCC, FDIC, FMCS, GAO, HUD, OGE, OSC, PTSA, SBA, TR.
   
   
2. Via telephone: IBWC & TR-BPD

B. NFC -

1. In Person: Jo Bonner, Penny Forbes, Gary Gaspard, Randy Gonzales, Mark Hazuda, Cliff Lee, Mark Liegey, George Morris, and Jody Nyers
   
   
2. Via telephone: Deidra Charlot, Eileen Youngblood, Joe Vitale, Mose Lindsay, and Polly Smith, Lousie Richard

FYI - There will be not be a CAPPS Meeting in December - see you on January 19, 2005. Have a safe and happy holiday season!